Samvera Tech Call 2022-01-05


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Agenda (meeting notes below)



Moderator: @Lynette Rayle

Notetaker: @Michael Johnson

Attendees:

  • @Juliet Hardesty

  • @Chris Colvard (Indiana University)

  • @Max Kadel (UNC Chapel Hill)

  • @Heather Greer Klein

  • @Lynette Rayle (Cornell)

  • @tamsin johnson

  • @Trey Pendragon

  • Margaret Kibi (kibigo)

  • @Michael Johnson (Indiana University)

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Meeting Process

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    2. Samvera help follow-up (moderator)

    3. Pull request review (moderator)

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Notes

TOPIC: Modernizing Hyrax JS build/package process

Led by @tamsin johnson , kibigo

  • Tamsin introduces Margaret Kibi who has been heading up the work on this. New dev at UCSB.

  • Working on Blacklight migration - necessary to get Hyrax onto Rails 6

    • Upgrading Blacklight requires some other changes

      • Upgrading Bootstrap

        • But upgrading Bootstrap breaks some components in our front end

        • Things that need to happen on the frontend and a lot of our infrastructure is out of date

          • Sprockets currently required

          • But Rails in general has moved away from using Sprockets - -a lot of the transpiling/bundling solutions are out of date/not maintained for Sprockets

          • Uses Babel for transpiling, but it uses Babel 5, which was last released in January of 2016 - 7 years out of date

        • We want to move to more contemporary JS development anyway

        • This PR was an exploration in using Deno, which sidesteps a lot of these issues. This allows us to use Rake tasks to build JS bundles

          • JS bundle gets built and added to the view

          • Application JS works the same but gets loaded after ours

        • 2 concerns:

          • Getting Deno to work on Alpine Linux is tricky (no glibc, and Deno needs glibc) - we have a fix for doing it within Docker, but if anyone runs Alpine outside docker, it won’t work out of the box

          • Makes development a little more cumbersome – have to manually run the rake task every time a change is made (not hooked into rails

        • Tamsin: is glibc a runtime dependency?

          • Margaret: no, it’s a build-time dependency. Deno binary uses dynamic linking that requires glibc.

          • You can run Deno binary on another box and copy the bundle over

        • Tamsin: That coupled with fact that we're not married to Alpine linux seems ok

          • Build existing images using Alpine, but that could change

        • Maybe we take a step back and think about building on Debian-based images instead?

          • But this shouldn't be a determining factor for the JS builds

          • Good topic for next Dev Congress - jan 24-28?

            • Tamsin: Can this wait until then?

            • Margaret: Yes.

TOPIC: Hydra derivatives

Led by @Chris Colvard

  • hydra-derivatives has some hoops you have to jump through to get build to pass

    • Dependencies on tools used to generate derivatives

    • One is Kakadu

      • Some of the files needed to build were missing, had to find them an alternative way

    • Hydra Derivatives has this as an ongoing problem

    • Suggestions?

      • Trey - like integration tests existing, but don't need to deal with this then

        • In case of Kakadu, we've left it behind and they've been stricter about licensing.

        • But there is not a great alternative

      • Chris: In short term want to cut a release of hydra-derivatives

        • have a PR - dropped testing on Ruby 2.4 b/c EOL and there are issues with the docker images

        • does dropping testing of Ruby 2.4 require a major version bump? Still works but not getting tested

        • Trey: No.

        • Tamsin: strictly speaking it's a nice thing to do but not super important. But sometimes things that are

          • What is downside to dumping major version?

            • Chris - if stricter versioning in gemfiles, will have to bump them to get the new version.

          • Tamsin: Don't feel it's super important either way. Do it how you want.

TOPIC: RDF upgrade

Led by @Chris Colvard

  • Wanted to check with Tamsin on where things are with RDF upgrade.

  • Concern that I have is that Greg Kallick(?) has a PR into LDP or to 3.2 for all RDF gems

  • In Avalon-space we're stuck in an older rdf-vocab space as some things have changed

    • Might drop rdf-vocab long term

  • Tamsin

    • What happened over holidays - Greg rewrote in-memory data repository

    • Past version used a Hash Arraymapped Tree to make small memory footprint while allowing for fast updates and fully-snapshottable transactions

      • Grab data in memory at any point and just hold it in memory

      • Downside: data structure was fundamentally unordered - find for RDF but not everything else.

        • Greg flipped it back - not sure motivation

        • New implementation that looks a lot like an old implementation

        • Snapshotting is retained

        • Some breakages as a part of that - some naming changed. On Monday Tamsin renamed to the previous name. Should be fixed.

          • However, a little worried about the memory properties of this datastructure

          • If being conservative, might not want to upgrade RDF to latest yet - especially where people are doing big reindexes, this might have issues

          • Going to do some benchmarking/testing - we might want to revert if it doesn't hold up

          • Greg concerned about breaking RDP/active-triples, think these changes are related to that

      • Chris put some comments but not much in the PR review

      • Seems like upgrade to 3.2 forced all other RDF gems to 3.2 , concerned about that

      • Tamsin - we may be able to change that. Will look at it this afternoon.

 

Moderator/notetaker next week

  • Moderator: Max Kadel

  • Notetaker: Chirs Colvard

Lynette will solicit feedback for Questioning Authority PR - Chris Colvard offered to stay on Zoom and talk about it