Page turner discussion

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Page turner discussion

 

  • who's built/using a pt?

    • Natahn Talman, UCin: no pt / using IA on some instances; want to get it into

    • Rob, Stanford: 3 different pt’s; Mirador2, IIIF

    • Steven Ng, Temple: don’t have pt; experimenting with seadragon and loris

    • Jeremy M, MPub: looking for a post-DLXS publishing platform; fully encoding text

    • Princeton: handful of pt’s; kill them all slowly; IA

    • Jess Keck, Stanford: embark how to embed digital objects around sites; pull in a pt environment into an application (embed vs. destination)

    • Chris Powell: pt’s

    • Tom Cramer, Stanford: would really like Hydra to be native IIIF compatible and can swap pt’s

    • Justin Coyne, DCE: pt for Case / TEI + 1/2image; AngularJS; wrote RIIIF

    • Randal Foy, IU: home-grown pt’s; out of METS, walking TEI; what happens in Hydra

    • John Dun, IU: specialized pt part of variations musical library (score + music specific annotation tools); integration with annotation (replace variations with avalon)

    • Betsy Colman: built pt’s

    • Scott Smith, USCB: how might pt be incorporated in Hydra

    • USCB? : looking into pt

    • Neal Stewart, : used IAs

    • Peter Binkly, : legacy project with pt

    • Richard Green, Hull: 5 UK universities, share a common need for a pt; Hull has taken IA and done a proof of concept against Hydra but it’s dirty. Not really looking for a heavyweight pt, just want to work with JPEGs

    • Brian Madey, DCE:

    • Dan Brubraker-Horst, ND: IA pt

    • Evan English, BPL: rolled out a pt in hydra, blacklight component based on WDL viewer

    • Robin Ruggaber, UVA: move to IIIF compliant pt

  • What about the back-end? Special structures that you’ve needed to build into Fedora / back-end to support the pt? Want to build a hydra environment that doesn’t care about the presentation

    • Justin Coyne: TEIp5 for Case - text + images simultaneously; is that that the common use case?

      • IU has this, using XTF

      • DLXS does this

      • HathiTrust via METS

    • Richard Green: Durham have OCRed text with images; Hull envisions something more robust than its current proof-of-concept--- json data stream with item data (image sizes, etc): easy with IA if the data all maps up

    • Evan: each image is its own object in fedora; rel-ext has two relationships (has-preceeding-page and is-preceeding-page-of) -- generate an array of PIDS in sequenced objects and fed to viewer javascript

    • IIIF has two APIS --- for getting at pixels, and one JSON based about order of images to populate a gallery, pt, etc.

  • Document driving presentation vs. each page knowing its context and then being able to tell where to go prev/next

    • images are related to parent via rel-ext

    • pre-serialize the rel-ext and embedded in HTML as js

  • TEI parsed in Ruby -> compound model -> easy to map between filename and datastream node; made it into JSON this page has this image and this text

  • Are there people ooking for a lightweight reader that only works with JPEGs, vs. being driven from a separate server (IIIF)

    • RIIIF is a middle-ground because you can just mount this gem - fetches the image out of fedora, resizes, keeps the cached copy around

    • IIIF presentation API is trying to solve is the middle format that drives the browser, define that abstraction layer for plug-n-play

  • IIIF2 going to have impact? (No, not at this level of discussion.)

  • Why are we building so many pt’s?

    • lots of people are using IA

    • HathiTrust needing something more modular

    • UVA needed to wrap more rights data

  • Any grounds for us to be looking into a gem that becomes a standard way to handle this in Hydra?

    • Mirador could be a base (does tiling), extensible

      • sprint to build annotation into openseadragon

    • Harvard Project to use Mirador 2 as a pt

  • driving force for ux: 2-page book, turning pages; don’t just want sequential images; the skeumorphism is important

  • https://github.com/IIIF/mirador

  • is there a pattern to feed one of these ready made front-ends from hydra? how do you define the structure?

    • people wanting bookreaders probably have metadata with structure

  • ability to embed content in other environments, e.g. take something out of a hydra repo and embed it somewhere else where you get analytics/access/etc.