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Moderator: Juliet Hardesty and ruth.k.tillman

Notetaker: Ruth Tillman

Community Notes: https://docs.google.com/document/d/16KGq2UHEzSwglF2abuyf7QHTQOJT0yHNaDkRw9eUYFU/edit?usp=sharing

Ryan Wick reporting: quiet over the holidays, no new submissions, next meeting 1/26 at 9am Pacific.
Working with Steering to arrange development of vocab manager.

Julie Hardesty: most recently met Monday, white paper is coming together. Elements from various spreadsheets and mapping are coming over into the white paper and getting organized.
White paper includes direct mapping/minted object mapping.
One more meeting right before ALA MW with goal of white paper release for comment/feedback more broadly than just Samvera community (though we’ll need a lot of feedback from Samvera)

James Griffin: Based off discussions at SamveraConnect. They’re working on the Me4MAP modeling

Me4MAP is the methodology from which was based the WG’s process and the deliverables chosen

Identifying elements to map to RDF predicates is nearly complete. Next week is the Geo4LibCamp, at which they’re hoping to finish domain model.
Next up would be environmental scan to determine whether existing ontologies with adequate predicates could be used. Develop usage guidelines and document entire process.

https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/samvera-tech/g1oa5B2B0Wk
The challenge of handling any kind of ordering of metadata, particularly author names, in RDF, which is not intended to model ordered metadata.
Example from PSU: https://github.com/psu-stewardship/scholarsphere/blob/develop/app/models/concerns/has_creators.rb#L14
Julie requesting/proposing whether a group could examine what’s out there and consider these… Suggests working group (Ruth seconds) will talk with Steve van Tuyl about making up a short-term wg proposal.
Open Hyrax issue: https://github.com/samvera/hyrax/issues/1568

Linda - coordinating with the Cultural Assessment Interest Group (DLF)? Possible metadata subgroup emerging within that group.

Compare with MODS to RDF metadata mapping and Avalon to Hyrax metadata mapping

Samvera Interest Group for Advising the Hyrax Roadmap (SIGAHR)
Julie: Do we want to have a metadata representation on the Hyrax roadmap? With Hyrax having come out of IR work, they may be trying to shift it toward representing digital collections and general digital management work.

Issues arising with Avalon, which will be using Hyrax (in Avalon). Trying to work out the concept of an Avalon worktype or a media worktype. Avalon descriptive data is MODS-based/catalog-record based, not specific to audio or video. More fields and more types of information than what Hyrax supplies out of the box.
Similarly, the elements being mapped from MODS->RDF comes up with a larger list of fields than what Hyrax has out of the box.
Per Mike Giarlo, It might be possible to expand on this but would require a migration path for people who are already using it.
MODS to RDF - https://wiki.duraspace.org/display/samvera/MODS+and+RDF+Descriptive+Metadata+Subgroup
AValon Hyrax field comparison - https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1iKpx_jw5QY6-R5FH_2-HCcqdqIuJkDdP93xZyiY4tIU/edit?usp=sharing
Hyku field list - https://docs.google.com/document/d/1RXRT08236E98RTKASX-bL60qLoBeZgYXFUSD4XBOIaE/edit
Possibility of ongoing work with comparison and then talking with Hyrax developers about what’s possible and what works.
From developer point of view -- extremely useful to hear that up front vs. trying to fix it later.
There are still some open issues in Hyrax (which also may be tagged)

Ruth volunteering to schedule Documentation WG to see their practices in action.

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